Some clever guy has started selling t-shirst at the Total Information Awareness Gift Shop, using the now-retired logo of the agency that wants to keep track of everything we are doing.
IM interview with Carl Tyler, CTO Instant Technologies re: Lotus
I was having an interesting email exchange with Carl, from Instant Technologies, and I thought we should let others in on it. Carl is a former Lotus staffer ("Loti") and his firm has received a lot of attention, praise, and awards for their technologies integrated with Sametime. The following is a transcript (slightly edited) of our IM session.
boydstowe: Can we talk now? Tyler Carl: sure boydstowe: So... I have heard that the organizational and technical shifts inside of IBM/Lotus are having some major repercussions. What is your perspective on that? Tyler Carl: Well, I think a number of things have been happening at IBM/Lotus boydstowe: such as boydstowe: ? Tyler Carl: the key being that Lotus is no longer really Lotus, but more of a brand within the software group, and a development lab of collaboration technology Tyler Carl: more and more the Lotus marketing efforts are being moved into the core IBM teams. Tyler Carl: this can be seen as a good thing as it does mean there will be less conflicting messages coming out of IBM boydstowe: Yes. And the whole shebang is being consolidated into WebSphere, more or less Tyler Carl: yes very much so Tyler Carl: Lotus has been given Websphere Workplace Tyler Carl: which is the environment that IBM is pushing as the place where people will work boydstowe: Isn't that consolidation necessary given the coming "war of the stacks" against Microsoft and Oracle? Tyler Carl: well it depends boydstowe: IM can't go it alone, can it? Tyler Carl: not at all Tyler Carl: the issue arises when all the world doesn't move to IBM's portal boydstowe: I see boydstowe: Then the Sametime ascendancy is threatened? Tyler Carl: IBM is so focused on the success of workplace that if it doesn't happen IBM will be in a tough spot boydstowe: I see Tyler Carl: Well up till now Sametime has had a fairly easy ride with most competitors focusing on consumer IM Tyler Carl: IBM/Lotus pretty much ahd the corporate space to themselves boydstowe: well, lilke 50% of the market boydstowe: But isn't this the same challenge that MS and Oracle face? Tyler Carl: well Micrososft has less of a challenge Tyler Carl: as their strategy is still tied to windows Tyler Carl: and it's going to be quite a while till that goes away Tyler Carl: Oracle on th eother hand has a very big problem boydstowe: Like what? Tyler Carl: no one recognizes them as being a thought leader in collaboration in any sense of the word boydstowe: But they are very aggressive Tyler Carl: so they will have to do an awful lot to educate the market around this. Tyler Carl: They are aggressive, but they are unproven Tyler Carl: from the point of view of an independant software vendor boydstowe: and they are challenging folks around total cost of ownership for email boydstowe: which is a commodity, right? boydstowe: and then they plan to roll with workflow, content management, IM, etc boydstowe: all 'at a price' Tyler Carl: email is considered a commodity by the email vendors, but I am not sure that corporations that purchase email are at that stage yet Tyler Carl: well IBM now sees email as a commodity boydstowe: yes Tyler Carl: but for many companies, they still feel like they can't easily switch boydstowe: Why not? Tyler Carl: if they're running exchange they're probably using some feature in outlook that only runs on exchange servers Tyler Carl: and the same can be true for people that purchased Notes for email boydstowe: Mostly that's not the case, as I understand it Tyler Carl: I would not be so sure boydstowe: re: Exchange anyway Tyler Carl: simple things can stop movements to other systems boydstowe: mostly foks run in the standard config Tyler Carl: for example with exchange you have the ability to pull back an email after it has been sent Tyler Carl: you can't do that with notes or pop3 or smtp Tyler Carl: so there are little features that users get used that often aren't discovered until moves start Tyler Carl: now in the area of IM, we will see a move to standards in much the same way email did, as people need to interact with other people in different organizations Tyler Carl: at the moment it looks like that standard is going to be SIP Tyler Carl: now Microsoft although late to the party have a slight advantage over lotus in this area as they are building "live" from the ground up as a SIP server Tyler Carl: IBM although they have been in this space for a number of years, are going to have to do some work to trully SIP enable sameitme so that SIP clients can connect to the server, currently lotus SIP support is limited to SIP community to SIP community connectivity Tyler Carl: concerning Oracle, their current collaboration offering doesn't yet include IM, so it will be interesting to see what they come up with, but they will have a tough fight as for many companies the choice for IM is going to be very much along the same lines as their choice for email, with many companies that chose exchange choosing "live" and those that chose Notes choosing Sametime. And those that chose Oracle email, are there any significant accounts, maybe choosing Oracle Im boydstowe: I have some insight to what Oracle is up to with IM, but let's leave that and get back to IBM Tyler Carl: yep boydstowe: Smooshing Lotus into IBM seems to have had some morale issues. Tyler Carl: so IBM and Sametime Tyler Carl: well Loti always felt different to IBMers boydstowe: yes Tyler Carl: they always considered themselves more creative and flexible boydstowe: and IBM was slow and less creative Tyler Carl: I think now Loti are being hit by the process of a really large company and many are finding that difficult Tyler Carl: well when it comes to client software, IBM has a veyr poor track record boydstowe: There's a lot of fallout? Tyler Carl: well I think there is a lot of Apathy boydstowe: capital A Apathy Tyler Carl: from what I can see, many Loti are losing the will to fight boydstowe: hmmm boydstowe: well IBM better get on it. Tyler Carl: I think they hav ehad a hard fight against competition such as Microsoft, but now they are fighting IBM too boydstowe: MS and Oracle are moving fast Tyler Carl: yes they are, and they are also dedicating more resources Tyler Carl: for example Tyler Carl: Microsoft has more postings on their job site for RTC marketing, than the IBM/Lotus team has in total boydstowe: I thought IBM was investing $1B in collaboration technology this year? Tyler Carl: I think Microsoft is realising how important this technology is going to be boydstowe: they are dead on there Tyler Carl: well collaboration is more than just IM boydstowe: I agree boydstowe: but RTC is more than IM too Tyler Carl: and there is also the effort of moving all the existing lotus technology to J2EE boydstowe: yes Tyler Carl: so that investment may not be in "new" technology but in rebuilding existing technology boydstowe: So what do you predict for the coming year? Tyler Carl: well I think RTC will arrive with a bang boydstowe: kablooie for Sametime? Tyler Carl: MS in true MS style will launch and will have many partners in many different industries endorsing their product Tyler Carl: well I would not say kablooie, but it is IBM's to lose boydstowe: sound and fury? smoke and mirrors? boydstowe: will MS have the meat? Tyler Carl: I hope they [IBM] get back some focus, dedicate some more resources, and don't become too blinkered by workplace, and forget about where most of their existing customers do their work. Tyler Carl: IF MS doesn't have the meat it doesn't matter Tyler Carl: they only have to do just enough to cause issues Tyler Carl: they will tie the product into everything they sell boydstowe: And slow down the ballgame for ST? Tyler Carl: Office, Outlook, Windows, Dev you name. Tyler Carl: it will slow down sales [for IBM] yes boydstowe: Carl, thanks for your time. Anything you want to add? Tyler Carl: Well I hope that IBM/Lotus realise what they have in Sametime, and start to focus on what is important for customers, and not what is important for IBM marketing slides.
Rafe Needle kicks the tires of Traction "A Better Way for Businesses to Blog", which I have been digging into for the past couple of weeks. I had a number of long conversations with Jason Frankel at Traction, after reading a mention that Clay Shirky wrote (I think at many-to-many).
The technology is much more advanced that Blogger or TypePad, and includes a lot of functionality that goes way beyond the typical micropublishing style that we have grown accustomed to. Several of the application area that the company has pushed into -- such as competitive intelligence -- have shaped the feature set and pushed it into a new category: blog-based content management.
Other blog solutions (most notably pMachine) are likewise scraping the edge of this emerging category.
I keep wondering why the biggest document and content management companies remain asleep at the wheel while these upstarts are redefining the way that businesses will communicate.
WSJ article this morning re: contact networking solutions,WSJ.com - Six Degrees of Exploitation? (the hyperlink won't work unless you have an online account with WSJ). Clay Shirky is quoted, saying that earlier versions of these solutions were too aggressive in forcing people to share info, basically "cracking people's heads open to see what's inside."
Does a fairly good job of explaining how Visible Path can automatically determine how familiar you are with a contact:
"Visible Path's "Relationship Mining Engine," for example, considers a contact closer if the employee has the contact's cell-phone number as opposed to just an office number. It also checks to see if a contact regularly responds to the employee's e-mails -- a sign of strong links -- or just receives it. Names on an instant-messenger buddy list are automatically considered strong links. So are repeated face-to-face or telephone meetings that show up in a calendar."
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